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August 8th, 2006
11:19 am


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Wisdom tooth out, under local. Pain and scariness, and lots of self control needed not to just run screaming from the room. Still, done now. Personally, both I and the tooth were quite happy with the state of affairs beforehand, but the dentist was wiser than we, and claimed that our relationship couldn't last without ending in violent pain. It appears to have ended in violent pain anyway, so I'm not sure what the win was, but hey, it's done.

Didn't get to keep the tooth. Anything that stops me from hording body parts probably considered helpful, but amusingly the reason for this was that the dentist had to cut it in two to get it out, and so the second the nerve becomes exposed it becomes clinical waste / a risk of viral infection etc. The tooth fairy must find it really hard getting her risk assessments passed by health and safety...

Odd, the balence between keeping the patient informed, and using precise language. The surgeon kept going on about how he was about to section the tooth. In the end I couldn't take it any more, and had to reply with "Do you mean you're going to cut it in half? Because at the moment it sounds like you're planning on committing it to a mental institution". One should, after all, call a spade a spade. But whether one should call a shovel a spade is more difficult.

My information sheet says "You should avoid HOT drinks and food for at least 6 hours". I read that as "You should avoid (hot) (drinks and food)" (maybe because of the BOLD). M read it as "You should avoid (hot drinks) and (food)". The English language needs more brackets. I want to eat icecream. I don't think I dare ring up the emergancy line to ask them if I'm allowed to eat icecream though.

And now there is cocodamol.

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Date:August 8th, 2006 10:43 am (UTC)
Well done - at least it is over now.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 10:47 am (UTC)
Didn't get to keep the tooth. Anything that stops me from hording body parts probably considered helpful,

Awww. I got to keep my vampire* teeth when they got removed, but not the part-teeth and baby teeth that were removed at the same time. Probably for the reasons that you cite.

*Very large canines

I wonder how routine it is to give patients their removed body parts. I suspect now that I'm not a child, I'd be rather less likely to be given bits of me back. I'm also not quite sure what one is supposed to do with them: "Actually I do still have my teeth/appendix/tonsils/whatever, see, they're here in this jar!" seems rather unlikely to go down well at parties.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 10:52 am (UTC)
I always think it's weird that if you are alive and they remove a bit of you as part of an operation you don't bury it but if you are dead and they take a bit out it causes lots of drama.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 10:51 am (UTC)
I had all four of mine out under general on Valentine's Day last year, which was rather a more drastic route to go down. Fingers crossed this is the only one that needs such drastic intervention, and get well soon.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 11:17 am (UTC)
Well, I only have one left now :-/ My problem is more that they are rotting instead of impacting* (although this mornings was charmingly doing both), so I got the top two out at my dentists instead of in the hospital. I had the choice of general, but they seemed to think that local was the wiser thing to do if you could hack it, so I tried to be brave. And I like collecting new experiences. To be honest, next time someone drills a hole in my bone, saws my tooth into three parts and then stiches my mouth back together I might pass on the experience and just ask them to knock me out.

*I don't know what my teeth are made of, but they seem to dissolve far more easilly than other peoples :-(
Date:August 8th, 2006 11:04 am (UTC)
The English language needs more brackets

But that would involve talking with a lisp.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 06:48 pm (UTC)
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Date:August 8th, 2006 11:05 am (UTC)
Cool. I didn't realise they let people have wisdom teeth out under local- was there any particular reason they did it? Ralph's having two of his out in a couple of months- he really doesn't like going under and was hoping they'd let him stay awake.

(also, squee, you get to look at interesting surgical tools...)
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Date:August 8th, 2006 11:13 am (UTC)
They're really really pro-local at the moment - a lot of me didn't want to be awake, but those bits were silly fluffy scared emotional bits, and all the rational bits (ie better chance of operation succeeding without Bad Stuff) weigh in on the side of local. But they talked to me about all this long before I had a date for it to be done. Maybe it's different if you're having lots out.
Date:August 8th, 2006 11:07 am (UTC)
ouch, that sounds really painful. A lack of organisation on my part means that i never got around to getting a dentist when i arrived in sheffield, so no-one has wanted to remove mine.

Date:August 8th, 2006 11:32 am (UTC)
Ooouch! Having had two teeth out last year and one this (non-Wisdom, but right at the back), I sympathise.

The worst thing for me is that whenever I have injections in my mouth it bursts out in huge nasty ulcers round where the needle goes in.

The English language does need more brackets. Logically we might suppose that if they'd meant to say (hot drinks) and (food) they'd have said "food and hot drinks", as that would have been unambiguous without using more words. However the precautionary principle would suggest the broader interpretation, if you can bear it. Ice cream sounds like a bad idea, regrettably.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 11:35 am (UTC)
It's a shame you didn't say "more braces" instead of "more brackets", because that would have kept the dentistry theme going.

I had three lots of extractions when I was in my teens, two general, one local. The general was under gas, and made me feel very very dodgy for the next few days (really quite impressive psychadelic dreams!). The local was straightforward, although the tooth in question was quite near the front, so nothing too dramatic.

Having said that, in general I prefer not to know what's going on.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 01:36 pm (UTC)
The point of the general is that you don't know what's going on.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 11:44 am (UTC)
I had four teeth out* when I got a brace as a teenager and it was horrible. If I had known what it would be like I would never have got a brace.

My orthodontist suggested from the X rays that I needed to have my wisdom teeth extracted because they were growing in the wrong direction or something similar. I replied that I would have more teeth removed when the pain from whatever they were doing was great enough to outweigh prospect of tooth extraction. This was approximately seven years ago and I have had no problems with my wisdom teeth other than only two of them making an appearance so far and an infection about four years ago that cleared up with a regular course of antibiotics.

*I kept the teeth and I think they're in a pot somewhere in my parents' house.
From:Dave Holland [org.uk]
Date:August 8th, 2006 11:49 am (UTC)
I had eight teeth out for similar reasons. I still hate dentists and have to force myself to go for checkups. My wisdom teeth are just fine where they are, too. :-)
Date:August 8th, 2006 12:04 pm (UTC)
My wisdom teeth are all stuck half-in my gums ("semi-erupted" is I think what dentists rather alarmingly call it). Every couple of years, one of them tries to make a bid for freedom, hurts for a bit, then gives up and remains where it is. The last few times I've been to a dentist they've seemed uninterested in removing them, though, which I'm perfectly happy with!
Date:August 8th, 2006 12:12 pm (UTC)
Oh well done.

I was told two years ago that I needed all four of my impacted wisdom teeth removed, under GA. I ignored this advice, due to cowardice and lack of symptoms at the time. Since then I've had lots of pain and I believe at least one of them has started to rot, so I decided to bite the bullet...

I'm going to see the oral surgeon tommorow. Even though the thought of a general anaesthetic doesn't appeal, the thought of having it done under local probably, on balance, appeals less.

I do NOT want my teeth afterwards. How macabre. :(
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Date:August 8th, 2006 12:35 pm (UTC)
Anything that stops me from hording body parts probably considered helpful

When Susan took Spider to the vet to be snipped she asked if she could have the snipped parts back to make into earrings. The vet said no.

Hot stuff in the mouth probably causes blood vessels to dilate and allow more blood through and promote bleeding. Also, stuff of any temperature might contaminate the wound. I had my wisdom teeth out many years ago under general anaesethetic but in those days the NHS was more concerned with providing a service and less with meeting arbitrary tagets.

Date:August 8th, 2006 12:36 pm (UTC)
I would suggest avoiding anything that you might damage your mouth with due to not being able to feel the pain they are causing. Hot things, very cold things, anything that involves chewing.

FWIW, I stalled when my dentist told me that my wisdom teeth needed to come out, and ended up with them growing into my cheek and causing pain. So then I had that pain plus the pain of having them out...
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Date:August 8th, 2006 12:41 pm (UTC)
*hug* *hug*

I also was being berated last night for suggesting english has brackets. It's a useful way to explain what your sentence meant if someone wants to understand it, but actually in real life, you couldn't put in brackets everywhere or you'd get an unreadable nested mess. And if you use judgement about where you need brackets you should just reword. "You should avoid food and hot drinks." "You should avoid: hot drinks; food." "Put nothing in your mouth except non-hot drinks" :)
Date:August 8th, 2006 12:55 pm (UTC)
So no trumpets, then? Bummer.
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Date:August 8th, 2006 02:08 pm (UTC)
Ooh, well done. I'm booked for a nasty filling on Monday. IRTA as "hot drinks" - I think at least tap water should be OK.
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