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September 26th, 2005
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From:sesquipedality
Date:September 26th, 2005 11:04 pm (UTC)
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Not really. It's a misconception. A lot of people like to claim it's selfish not to want children, but I've never seen anyone come up with a good rationale for this. Most of those people I know who want to remain childless are caring considerate people who for whatever reason feel that having kids is not an absolute priority. Personally I'd argue that bringing a child into a world as bad as ours is in some senses a selfish action, since they will doubtless suffer greatly as a result, and it seems cruel to expose them to this,
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From:kaberett
Date:September 26th, 2005 11:11 pm (UTC)
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Aye, but I think I'd quite like to sprog, you see, and I think I'm now mentally stable enough that I'm not *completely* guaranteed to screw up their lives... I flatter myself I'll end up with reasonably intelligent kids, and while it may seem cruel to expose them to this world, if only the people who don't care reproduce, then we're breeding for apathy and stupidity, yeah? Or something.

So my desire to be able to continue with my half-arsed musical ambitions *does* feel a bit selfish, in the face of that lot, as I've got RSI anyway and amn't doing much to take care of my hands (:
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From:lnr
Date:September 26th, 2005 11:18 pm (UTC)
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Would you end up with reasonably intelligent kids if you adopted too?

Nature versus nurture and all that.
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From:gerald_duck
Date:September 26th, 2005 11:29 pm (UTC)
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An intersting question, but I fear one could waste an appreciable proportion of one's life finding out…
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From:atreic
Date:September 27th, 2005 10:16 am (UTC)
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Hmm. The outcome of adopted children is surprisingly hard to use in the nature/nurture debate, because lots of children up for adoption in the UK were not given up for adoption by their parents. It is typical for the process of taking children away from inadiquate parents to take around four years, as the system is very geared towards keeping parents with their children if at all possible*, and even once the children have been taken in to care they will often remain with foster parents for quite some time while the parents go through the courts to try to get their children back.

So unless you were one of the lucky few who get to adopt non-shopsoiled babies, adoptive children tend to come with poor nature, *and* poor nurture for their most formative years. Bad combination.

*I am terribly divided on whether this is a good or a bad thing
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From:kaberett
Date:September 30th, 2005 10:37 pm (UTC)
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Terribly belatedly:

I've not a clue. I've really not a clue.

But... well... *my* children, y'know? And things. And stuff.

AIUI studies have shown that intelligence is a mixture of nature & nurture; that by the age of about five, one can already see the dim kids from good backgrounds academically overtaking the bright kids from poorer ones, as a general rule.

So... I don't know. Age. And things. And stuff. And babies! And stuff. :/
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