Hmmm... I want to post "Fred Dibnah dead", but then I'll be flamed… - Sally's Journal
Hmmm... I want to post "Fred Dibnah dead", but then I'll be flamed to pieces by all the people I was annoyed at over John Peel.
I am a strange inconsistent creature.
I'm not really grieving though, it's more the kind of shock and sadness you get when someone builds houses on a park you used to play on, or the confusion when they change the road layout through a village you used to live in. To me he isn't a person I'll miss, but a thing... In general, change is saddening, and the world we live in is not the world we were born in. We're all foreigners.
|Date:||November 6th, 2004 09:06 am (UTC)|| |
Oh, really? :-(
|Date:||November 6th, 2004 10:22 am (UTC)|| |
For some reason, I confuse him with Joe Brown (who I'd managed to convince myself had had a day-job as a steeplejack, but on investigation seems not to have).
|Date:||November 6th, 2004 11:29 am (UTC)|| |
The thing about Peel is that he was the figurehead of a community; we don't have conventions, we just go to gigs and clubs and radio stations and read the NME (or have given it up because It's Not As Good As It Used To Be) and dammit his radio show was a part of our lives *every day* (or it felt that way).
Imagine what people round here will be like if (and may it be very far away) Terry Pratchett, for instance, passes on, or many of your friends if an accident was to befall JK Rowling (and again I sincerely hope it doesn't); there *is* community there, and there is a shared sadness. I got the impression, and it *was* very upsetting, that because there aren't membership cards that you (and many other people) were totally unaware of this and hence unduly dismissive of my and other peoples' feelings. It wasn't grief, or even close - but there was a genuine sadness and sense of loss there.
I'm sorry to hear of Fred Dibnah's death, though he was never more than someone I saw on the TV to me; with the Peel show, it was something that shaped who I am to an extent. I'm sure there's people who got into (structural) engineering via Dibnah's programs, and they'll feel the same as I did then.
|Date:||November 6th, 2004 04:15 pm (UTC)|| |
I still think that we morn their passing as institutions or as the projected personality we create in our own heads, rather than knowing the person they are and actually missing that in the way close friends or family will. But I'm not sure, and I'm really sick of upsetting people over this. I think I'd have been just as ranty over "Terry Pratchett is dead", and while I'd hate the end of the series to have been bought on like that, I'd be grieving the loss of books never born instead of the person, no matter how much I loved his work...
Also, half my rant was against content free posts. "There arn't any words" is a very lame line to take - the loss of brillient things deserves words explaining their sadness.
I don't think that's inconsistent at all - after all, you posted the death announcement and then said why it mattered to you. That's not just saying RIP X but a statement about your feelings and how something has affected you.
Well you can't have flamed me as I posted after your rant. And I also feel sad the Fred has gone, his tv programmes were full of odd insights and a wit that is sadly lacking in modern life.
Fred Dibnah is dead?
Damnit. I missed that one.
It's hard not to respect a guy who used to blow up buildings for a living and liked steam engines.
|Date:||November 8th, 2004 07:08 pm (UTC)|| |
I'm always reassured to return to Britain and find Patrick Moore still presenting The Sky At Night.
|Date:||November 8th, 2004 11:15 pm (UTC)|| |
Don't tempt fate - he's been very ill once this year already, and Chris had to do a show completely on his own... :-(