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July 3rd, 2007
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This picture of me

Looks less attractive than you look on average
16(20.0%)
Looks more attractive than you look on average
2(2.5%)
Looks about as attractive as you look on average
5(6.2%)
Is terrible
0(0.0%)
Is funny
1(1.2%)
Is cute
5(6.2%)
Is one of the worst photos of you I've seen
2(2.5%)
Is one of the best photos of you I've seen
0(0.0%)

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From:ewx
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:23 pm (UTC)
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I can take it down if you like...?
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From:atreic
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)
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Nah, I don't mind. It's just M was all "this is the best photo of you in the world ever, you should use it as your profile photo!" and I just can't see it at all.
From:mtbc100
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
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I don't think it's that good — I think I've seen at-least-as-good photos of you elsewhere.
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From:gerald_duck
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:47 pm (UTC)
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You not voting, then?

It would be genuinely interesting to see your opinion of your own photo.
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From:ewx
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:09 pm (UTC)
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By construction it's basically a snapshot: the quality (such as it may be) of party photographs comes from selection as well as from decisions made at the time. Come the morning after, I liked the very dynamic pose, so it made the cut.

I agree that the way the angle treats the face is not ideal. There are other aspects I don't like - the blurred glasses in the foreground are pretty inevitable from the context it was in but nonetheless a shame; the arm and bottom of the hand are cropped away. The color isn't great, which is very hard to avoid given the lighting conditions. Going to black and white might well improve it, especially with a careful choice of transformation.

It's not the photo I'd put above the cut, if I made a photo post from that occasion, though whether I'd include it under the cut I'm not sure.

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From:ewx
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:30 pm (UTC)
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A few more general things I've noticed:

  • Very many people seem to mark down photos of themselves; people generally seem to be more critical of their own appearance than other people's. This is so common that I assume it's just a natural fact about people (and it doesn't seem an entirely surprising one). While obviously I'm happy to take down photos if ask by their subject, it does mean I have developed a slightly thick skin about people's impressions of their own image.
  • There are people who don't have this bug, who seem happy with their own appearance, and they don't seem to me to be arrogant or conceited; I think these people have simply found a healthy degree of self-confidence in this matter.
  • Some people just plain don't photograph well (at least when I'm behind the camera). I'm not sure why; it includes some people I think very attractive, so I don't think it's a simple question of appearance.
  • By the same token some people, including some I don't think are anything out of the ordinary looks-wise[1] seem to be able to do no wrong in front of the camera.

[1] I don't mean they're ugly or anything, just, you know, not my thing, for whatever reason. Nobody is to get paranoid here!

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From:gerald_duck
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:28 pm (UTC)
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I find that precise angle quite perturbing: it's something about the way your left cheek shows beyond the bridge of your nose then melds with the tip of it.
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From:ptc24
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:43 pm (UTC)
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I was going to say that: great expression + bad angle = average photo.
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From:kaberett
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:30 pm (UTC)
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Not voting, because I've forgotten what you look like, as mentioned, but...

I can see (when I concentrate) why I'd hate it if I were you, but as I'm not you, I think it's lovely. Ner.
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From:ilanin
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:36 pm (UTC)
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Eeew. Even the short hair is better :)
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From:shreena
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
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I can see why you'd hate it. I can also see why someone who loves you would really like it.

If it were a photo of me, I wouldn't want to use it a profile picture. If it were a photo of someone I was in love with, it might well be a picture I would keep in my wallet. (If I did that kind of thing, which I don't.)
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From:simont
Date:July 3rd, 2007 01:53 pm (UTC)
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I think it's captured your mouth in one of those positions which would look perfectly sensible if your mouth passed through it in motion, but which looks slightly odd when frozen in time. Not extremely so – probably less odd than the average pose you'd get by hitting Pause on a DVD – but just enough to make the photo look slightly odd compared to the real person.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:00 pm (UTC)
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Yes! Unsurprisingly I agree.

I think the photo is nice, but cancelled out by that (it's not bad, just nags me). If it had been slightly different, I would have voted "better than average".
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From:taimatsu
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:03 pm (UTC)
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That's what I think too.
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From:deborah_c
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:07 pm (UTC)
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I see what you mean, I think -- I personally loathe photographs of me singing, and particularly from the angle this photo's from. Somehow it's not a natural way to be seen. (Actually, I pretty much hate my profile anyway, but that's separate from this...)
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From:deborah_c
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:08 pm (UTC)
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Oh, but I should add: lots of friends think I look attractive in such pictures (even when I'm singing), but I tend to think they must be utterly deranged. I tend to think that about anyone who claims I'm attractive anyway, of course.
From:mtbc100
Date:July 3rd, 2007 02:17 pm (UTC)
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Hmmmm. I remember your hair seeming darker than that.

It's hard for me to say because I need to see moving video to decide on attractiveness.
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From:the_lady_lily
Date:July 3rd, 2007 04:59 pm (UTC)
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I am basing my judgement on lots and lots of photos from bardcamp of you doing fabulously theatrical things, and thus may not be the best judge :)
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From:rochvelleth
Date:July 3rd, 2007 05:20 pm (UTC)
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I do think it's cute, but also think I've seen you look prettier (as others said, I think the angle could be more flattering) - and yet it looks like you, and you're very pretty, and so it's quite difficult deciding to tick the less pretty box, IYSWIM.

I think partners and loved ones see much more in a photo than the average onlooker - when you look at it yourself, you can't help seeing the faults, but a loved one might see some good memory in it, a particular look in your eyes, something that encapsulates what you mean to them... that kind of thing.
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From:the_marquis
Date:July 3rd, 2007 05:45 pm (UTC)
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Your photos of you with the new hair look much, much better.
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From:enismirdal
Date:July 3rd, 2007 06:32 pm (UTC)
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There are lots of photos of you looking extremely gorgeous and sexy (I love the ones with the socks!). I wouldn't say that was among the best photos of you, however!
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:July 3rd, 2007 06:46 pm (UTC)
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<geek social="offer-unsolicited-personal-advice:on offer-inappropriate-technical-solutions:on">You could hack the dns so exactly Matthew sees that as your icon</geek> :)
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From:mair_aw
Date:July 3rd, 2007 11:25 pm (UTC)
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could you?
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:July 4th, 2007 12:21 pm (UTC)
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Well, something like that, right? IIRC icons have to stored on lj servers, so you can't replace them at source, but if you're on M's computer or M's gateway, you should be able to replace requests for S's icon with ones for an icon made from that picture stored somewhere else. Come to think of it, greasemonkey might be easier.
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From:theinquisitor
Date:July 3rd, 2007 11:12 pm (UTC)
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...but what's most attractive about you is all in the motion, and the reaction - and photos never do it justice.

(I assume I'm still entitled to an opinion ;-)
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