Poll #788290… - Sally's Journal
If I'm alive I have the chance to change my views.
Right but dead is often also Wrong, because of the knock-on effects of your actions and death on others. Sadly, heroics hurts.
|Date:||August 8th, 2006 01:08 pm (UTC)|| |
No compromise - always start with the outside set of cutlery!
Upon futher thought I'd like to add the proviso: Depending on circumstances
|Date:||August 8th, 2006 01:32 pm (UTC)|| |
Depends on the importance of the issue and one's own position on it! If the question is "Should you put Jews on the trains to the gas chambers" then I'll go for Right-but-dead. If it's "What is the wing speed of an unladen African swallow", then Wrong-but-alive.
Actually, I was once threatened with death by a roommate when I was about 12 over the question of how many days it was till Christmas. (We were a sort of commune, and had another family staying with us, who had a boy my age). He insisted you should today as well as Christmas itself in the total, I insisted that you shouldn't. He sought to settle the argument by drawing his bow and arrow on me, and holding me at bay with it for half an hour. He was a bit of a strange kid.
|Date:||August 9th, 2006 10:55 am (UTC)|| |
<raise hand> This one votes according to mood for that. I hate being wrong, and when I filled in the poll I was also in the midst of a depressive fit. Wouldn't make a difference.
Being right is very important to me, probably much more so than most people. Even about trivial things. And certainly there are some things I think are worth dying for. But without the choice in front of me, I can't know: I'd probably wimp out.
Wrong-but-alive if we're talking factually right or wrong. Right-but-dead if we're talking ethically right or wrong, but that's not to say I'd have the courage to go through with that in real life.
|Date:||August 8th, 2006 04:52 pm (UTC)|| |
Amen to that.
It depends what the cause is. There are causes that I will lay down my life for - but for most circumstances, there's a short piece of verse that starts:
Here lies the body of William Jay
Who died defending his right of way
I will steal to preserve my life or the lives of others - but I will not murder. (I put Wrong but alive - but really need more context).
*is amused by Sally's poll*
Wrong-and-alive. To paraphrase Patton, it isn't about dying for what you believe in - it's about making the other guy die for what you don't.
, I half expect that I'll end up getting stabbed in a bar because I never back down on something I believe in...)
Right-but-dead is an ideal for me - I've never had to put it to the test.
Possibly not right-but-$OtherThings, mind... but *shrug* who can tell where the line is? I find right-but-crippled much more frightening than right-but-dead.
I generally believe that the ends do not justify the means, although my inner cynic is sometimes quite grumpy about me doing so...
This was nicely cryptic given my LJ-reading style, since I read the previous posts after voting, but before replying...
If you're alive and nobody else is dead as a result, you probably got it right.