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September 21st, 2005
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This weekend, I need to be at my cousin's wedding in Kendel (lake district) on Saturday.

I could sleep at my aunts house in Manchester on Friday to break up the journey

It is also robhu's party in York on Friday. I could go to that to break up the journey. I don't know if I could crash there or not, and I don't know if seeing strange people you only know on-line in real life is a good/safe/sane thing to do, if you're a lone female on her way to a wedding.

In October, I am going bridesmaids dress shopping in Sheffield, as two of my bridesmaids live there. I will have at least two adult bridesmaids, my mother, and two approximately-ten bridesmaids. This has the potential to be screaming doom on a stick, as I have no idea what *I* want, and where there are any bridesmaids dress shops in Sheffield. The idea of a trip up to check the lie of the land, make some appointments for the trip in October, and get things straight in my mind is very tempting.

I can drive, but I would be on my own, fairly tired, and it's a very long way. It is highly unlikely there will be a petrol crisis, but there might be.

I could get the train, but then it would be expensive, and I would have to get a return to Kendel, as anything else would be both logistically and financially doom. And I'd have to rely on my parents to pick me up from stations, and my nice wedding clothes would get more squashed.

Poll #574576 Wedding

Train or car?

Train
11(47.8%)
Car
12(52.2%)

If car, where?

Sheffield on Friday to look at bridesmaid dress shops
1(6.7%)
York on Friday for Rob's party
2(13.3%)
York on Friday to sleep
0(0.0%)
Manchester on Friday to sleep
3(20.0%)
Kendel on Saturday (via travel on Friday)
0(0.0%)
Kendel on Saturday (via Killer Marathon Drive from Cambridge)
0(0.0%)

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From:mair_aw
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:09 am (UTC)
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well, robhu came to my party in edinburgh on monday full of people he didn't know, and he seemed quite safe :)
From:ex_robhu
Date:September 21st, 2005 12:12 pm (UTC)
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That was my good twin Rob!
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From:mair_aw
Date:September 21st, 2005 03:21 pm (UTC)
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I realised my comment could be seen two ways; that my mpression of you was that you're not an axe murderer, or that going to a party full of internet people didn't kill you (only got you lost :) (and by extension hopefully wouldn't kill atreic either). both are true, I hope :)

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From:miss_next
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:16 am (UTC)
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How very strange! I was born and brought up in Kendal, and I now live in Sheffield.

Most of the bridal shops in Sheffield are on Ecclesall Road, but they are generally exorbitantly expensive. You would probably do better to start at John Lewis, which is in the city centre, before you go and look at those. Alternatively they have a pretty good haberdashery department and they also sell patterns, so if one or more of your bridesmaids is any good at sewing, you may be able to get a much more effectively co-ordinated look for a great deal less.

You could also crash here, if you're able to bring a sleeping bag (I'm afraid I don't have a spare bed at the moment). If you don't mind being slept on by cats, there is the sofa downstairs, otherwise the floor in the spare bedroom has a carpet and is reasonably comfortable (I know this, having occasionally had to sleep on it myself when there has been a noisy party next door). Let me know if you would like to do that.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:22 am (UTC)
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Ooh! I wasn't, but it was certainly somewhere my gparents knew well. Small place.
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From:miss_next
Date:September 21st, 2005 03:13 pm (UTC)
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Not such a small place now - it's grown enormously since I last lived there. But definitely a small world. :-)

Are you iconless by choice, incidentally, and if not, would you like me to make you one? Your username has given me a certain amount of inspiration.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 03:34 pm (UTC)
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I meant england is small, not kendal. That's sort of logically problematic, but I hope clarifying :)

By choice? Half and half. I decided it didn't add that much to me, and I couldn't much be bothered, and if I found an icon I liked I'd use it, but couldn't be bothered to make, search, or request any.

So if you felt inclined, please do, I'd feel very grateful, but don't think I'd be depreived if you didn't :) Thank you!

PS. I'm very curious what you are inspired to; would you rather say or try to surprise me?
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From:miss_next
Date:September 21st, 2005 03:38 pm (UTC)
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I'll surprise you. Perhaps. It depends how surprisable you are. :-)

And it's no problem; as megamole will tell you, I just love making icons. I've probably made more of his than he has.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:01 pm (UTC)
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LOL. OK, hit me.
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From:miss_next
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:33 pm (UTC)
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Behold, your very own little Cartesian daemon:



He's actually a relative of Maxwell's demon, but that is a long story. Quite literally. About 20000 words, if I recall. :-)
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:39 pm (UTC)
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Aw, sweet! OK, one icon and counting :)
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From:miss_next
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:42 pm (UTC)
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You're welcome. :-)

Isn't it about time you were on my friends list so we can stop cluttering up Sally's journal?
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:45 pm (UTC)
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Oh yes. *Friends (v)* Go ahead.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:01 pm (UTC)
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Metaphorically.
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From:gerald_duck
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:24 am (UTC)
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Unless you think you've been the victim of an elaborate grooming conspiracy of epic proportions, I'd say it was safe for a woman to meet a group of people they've previously only known online.

Partying sounds a lot more fun to me than than shopping for dresses. (-8

If it's convenient, I see nothing wrong with driving from Cambridge to Kendal in a day, but your mileage may vary. London to Edinburgh, Land's End to Cambridge, Huntingdon to Oban, and even scarier Continental jaunts I take in my stride, only beginning to get worried when I reach 750 miles or so in a day.

Disclaimer: I may be mad.
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From:gerald_duck
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:54 am (UTC)
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PS: If you're as much of a night owl as I am, trains are useless, because you spend 50% of the evening poring over a mess of connections on timetables to work out the time of the last train back, another 40% of the evening clock watching because it's so vital not to miss the last train, and 10% in a mad exasperated dash because it always takes longer to say goodbyes and get to the station than people expect.

With a car, the later you set off, the shorter your journey time home. (-8
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From:ilanin
Date:September 21st, 2005 11:59 am (UTC)
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You could probably stay with me on Friday evening (I'd have to ask people, but I wouldn't expect them to say no). I'm more halfway to Kendal* (you can go A14/M6 or A1/M62 and it is more or less the same distance, so it doesn't increase your journey length according to Google Maps, anyway) than other such places. Here via Sheffield is also possible.

*This is either a good or a bad thing depending on how early on Saturday you want to reach Kendal.
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From:ilanin
Date:September 21st, 2005 06:37 pm (UTC)
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Confirmed: you can stay overnight here should you want to.
From:ex_robhu
Date:September 21st, 2005 12:14 pm (UTC)
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I'm quite safe, and yeah you'd be more than welcome to stop over as pretty much everyone else is.

I suspect you'll be the only non-office person there, but that's totally fine - it would be fantastic to meet you!

You will get to see an unusual side of me though, I normally don't drink anything etc... but the last time the office people came over I let my hair down (so to speak) for the first time in a long time.
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 21st, 2005 05:17 pm (UTC)
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"I'm quite safe,"

Yes, and "I am not a liar" :) Sorry, I'm sure you *are*, it's just the canonical sentence that interpreted fairly literally contains no information :)
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 22nd, 2005 06:32 am (UTC)
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You're sure he is a liar?
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 22nd, 2005 08:44 am (UTC)
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Safe! Safe! Or possibly Cretan. Not a liar. Oops.

PS. Hi Owen, nice to hear from you! I only yesterday saw you had an lj.
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 22nd, 2005 08:07 pm (UTC)
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I only yesterday saw you had an lj.

Ah... Subtlety...

The art of waving ones arms in the air, screaming hello and not being noticed....
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 23rd, 2005 12:15 pm (UTC)
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Not waving, but drowning...

Um, you never commented in my journal and I didn't check my 'friend of' links for a while. What was so obvious? :)
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From:mair_aw
Date:September 23rd, 2005 09:28 pm (UTC)
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Not waving, but drowning...

ah, the ubiquitous robert frost strikes again :D
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 23rd, 2005 11:38 pm (UTC)
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robert frost?
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 23rd, 2005 11:47 pm (UTC)
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Robert "Stevie" Frost :)

Sorry, ongoing joke/truism that every well known poem that no-one can attribute is by Frost, as quotes are by Twain and so on. It's normally true.
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 23rd, 2005 11:38 pm (UTC)
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drowning ones arms in the air? How do you do that...?

Commenting in a live journal wouldn't exactly be subtle would it...

...ah...

...bother!
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From:cartesiandaemon
Date:September 23rd, 2005 11:48 pm (UTC)
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Nobody heard him, the dead man,
But still he lay moaning:
I was much further out than you thought
And not waving but drowning.

Poor chap, he always loved larking
And now he's dead
It must have been too cold for him his heart gave way,
They said.

Oh, no no no, it was too cold always
(Still the dead one lay moaning)
I was much too far out all my life
And not waving but drowning.
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From:atreic
Date:September 22nd, 2005 08:47 am (UTC)
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Do you have address and phonenumber? Well, of course you do, but would you mind telling me them? I am emailable on sac48@cam.ac.uk, and will probably make a snap decision tomorrow :)
From:ex_robhu
Date:September 22nd, 2005 08:53 am (UTC)
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From:yrieithydd
Date:September 21st, 2005 01:10 pm (UTC)
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I vote for train, because cars are evil! (Both in terms of the environment and making me feel ill!) But train companies are evil! And fares are stupidly expensive! Certain tickets do allow for break of journey (but very rarely going)
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From:flats
Date:September 21st, 2005 01:36 pm (UTC)
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For the train, planning to break your journey up to Kendal somewhere else overnight will massively restrict the ticket types you can get - possibly only an Open Return will allow that. Certainly Saver and Super Saver returns don't let you do such things. Open Returns are wildly expensive, thus car.
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From:aldabra
Date:September 21st, 2005 02:02 pm (UTC)
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http://www.yell.com/ucs/UcsSearchAction.do;jsessionid=aqoED4rQA-a4?searchType=classic&ooa=on&keywords=bridesmaids&companyName=&location=sheffield&x=39&y=14

Go for ones with websites. If you can find ones with branches in Cambridge better still. John Lewis is probably a good bet from this PoV; decide what you want here, go to Sheffield, check it works with your bridesmaids, come back, order the dresses wherever convenient. If all you're doing is browsing for possibilities it doesn't matter where you do it, so don't do it in Sheffield. Once you have an idea what you want, then's the time to see if Sheffield can do it.

Actually, if not all your bridesmaids are in Sheffield I think there's an overwhelming argument for John Lewis, because most people are within driving distance of one and can go and ORGANISE THEIR OWN DAMN DRESS once you've chosen the colour and design and can check it fits while it's still the shop's responsibility rather than yours, &c.
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From:teleute
Date:September 21st, 2005 04:49 pm (UTC)
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I'm with aldabra on this one: if you go for a bridal shop per se you'll get charged exhorbitant prices. If you go to a department shop you can get the same or similar for (over here) about 20% of the price. I bought my bridesmaid dresses in Sears and had the bridesmaids get them adjusted to fit if necessary (which is likely to be something they'll be doing anyway unless you're really spending a fortune and getting them tailored). Another option, especially for the older bridesmaids, might be somewhere like Monsoon, or another chain that does dresses you like. And the littler bridesmaids don't have to match exactly: lots of weddings put the women in one type of dress and the girls in a different style, and sometimes even a different color. I think that could look really lovely :-)

Or you could just have seven... ;-)
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From:satanicsocks
Date:September 21st, 2005 04:13 pm (UTC)
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I think it took me about 3.5 to 4 hours to drive to the Lake District (Windermere) earlier this year. Same sort of thing back. If you get headachey, or bored, or tired driving then it's probably not a good idea to do it on the same day.. but it's certainly theoretically possible :)
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From:catyak
Date:September 21st, 2005 04:51 pm (UTC)
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We could probably offer an overnight stay but as we're only a few miles outside Cambridge, that probably isn't much use.

Trains are fun but expensive, especially when they don't start from where you are and don't go where you want to go.

D
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 22nd, 2005 06:23 am (UTC)
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Clearly being on the way to a wedding makes strangers far more dangerous...

As for trains to the Lake District from Cambridge. You're mad even considering it. Don't do it!!!!

Always used to take me about 6 hours to get from Cambridge to Penrith by train...
From:ex_robhu
Date:September 22nd, 2005 08:54 am (UTC)
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Clearly being on the way to a wedding makes strangers far more dangerous...
How so?
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From:hmmm_tea
Date:September 22nd, 2005 07:26 pm (UTC)
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Well, there's clearly a much higher mortality rate for bridemaids, etc...

or perhaps I'm just being overly captious...
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From:rmc28
Date:September 22nd, 2005 12:44 pm (UTC)
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It doesn't take *that* long to drive to Sheffield. About 2-3 hours. But I'd rather do it by train anyway, the only reason I drive it is because I'm going somewhere nearby to climb.
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From:chess
Date:September 22nd, 2005 12:47 pm (UTC)
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I have often met people from the Internet and none of them has harmed me yet (or indeed been other than lovely, as far as I can remember). I have met them at my own parties, at parties they've had, in random hotels in London, at their houses, and probably everything else you're not meant to do :).
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From:atreic
Date:September 25th, 2005 05:37 pm (UTC)
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Yes, I will buy the dress. Amusingly, I am the only person in the world to have been given a pay rise for failing their PhD. :)
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From:atreic
Date:September 27th, 2005 10:29 am (UTC)
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Yes... Is there anywhere sensible near you to park while loading / unloading?

When is best for you? Lunchtimes are probably easiest for me, although not the 4th as it's my interview at 1.30...
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