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November 7th, 2004
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Why does the world want me to eat pizza? Or more precisely, why is the world obsessed with pizza express?

Now, I'm not a big fan of italian in general. Pizzas I find too bready, and a lot of pasta and sauce stuff I end up thinking that I could have cooked at home for a tenth of the price. And pizza is very samey - it's mainly tomato and cheese flavoured, with a few nice bits. Plus, it's remarkably not-very-nice for something fattening. Just think of all the chips I could eat if I wasn't eating that amount of melted cheese!

There are ways round this in most pizza restaurants. The big greasy deep pan pizzas of pizza hut are sufficiently moist and gooey and unhealthy that it's not just like eating a slab of bread, plus they do sliced olives so the whole thing tastes pleasently of olives instead of having 5 lonelilly dotted round the top. Ask do a pizza with a pesto base instead of a tomato base, which is a great joy, as pesto is a rare, interesting and nice taste, instead of tomato puree, which isn't. And Ask and Zizzis do interesting pasta dishes that I *couldn't* cook at home, involving seafood or excitingly fancy stuff. Also, they have a specials board, which means I can at least try something new - if it turns out to be boring or not very nice at least it's an experience.

Pizza Express has none of these redeeming features as far as I can tell. Unfortunately large chunks of people who I like, and who I want to spend time with, seem to be besottled with the place. Monday pizza has stagnated there, because it seems too much like hard work to break anyone else in to dealing with geeks (or at least it makes being round the geeks far too unpleasent as they complain about the lack of water, the overpriced garlic breads and the slowness of the service, and never bother to compliment the marvelous menu, the far nicer food, and the funky candles). And now the Big Round Band wants to go there for pre-ceiligh food on Friday. And I'd love to have dinner with M and the band. But I'm sick to death of giving money I don't have to pizza express for food I don't particularly like! Since when did the ability to like pizza express become such an important social skill anyway?

Grrr. Rant over. If anyone wants to feed me before the ceiligh on Friday to spare themselves having to listen to more of this ranting, do shout ;-)

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From:ilanin
Date:November 7th, 2004 09:07 am (UTC)
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*smiles*

I would generally like to associate myself with the majority of this. I would offer to feed you before the ceilidh, but since I have twisted my ankle quite badly (on Tuesday, and it still hurts every bit as much today) the odds of my actually being at the ceilidh are quite bad, and you'd probably feel guilty running off to a ceilidh without me after having been fed.

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From:mobbsy
Date:November 7th, 2004 09:14 am (UTC)
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You're allowed to get bored of Monday geek pizza, I did. It's been essentially the same for the 9 years I've known about it, and before that too. There've been slight variations in venue but overwhelmingly it's a conservative tradition that people have tried to shift from time to time without much success.

The conversations don't seem to change much either :-)
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From:atreic
Date:November 7th, 2004 09:20 am (UTC)
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:-)

Ah no, that was the one thing I wanted to make clear in my rant - that it only annoyed me so much because I *want* to be round the people having the conversations and the company, and am growing increasingly frustrated that eating pizza is the easiest (only?) way of doing this.
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From:senji
Date:November 7th, 2004 09:39 am (UTC)
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I note that there are documented methods for specifying a new location of pizza for a week; although specifying a location that didn't supply pizza might be sufficiently radical that one might wish to give people chance to object.

"what methods?!" I hear you cry...

Well, there is a pizza mailing list on chiark ( http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/pizza ). It is an accepted form of protocol that since some people don't read their email over the weekend, pizza should be announced on the Friday preceeding at the latest if it isn't at the default location.

Of course, in the current climate of noone having sufficient arse to modify the location of pizza, one might find that if one attempted this that regulars were in fact not subscribed to this mailing list, so for an initial experiment I would recommend more notice than that...
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From:atreic
Date:November 7th, 2004 10:46 am (UTC)
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Yes, but attempts by other people to modify the location of pizza just leads to people whinging bitterly all night. Thus changing the company that I wanted into company I don't want very much
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From:ceb
Date:November 7th, 2004 01:12 pm (UTC)
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There's post-pizza, and SGO parties, and random socialising; it's not the only way.
From:ex_robhu
Date:November 7th, 2004 01:44 pm (UTC)
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What about eating non Pizza based italian food instead?
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From:atreic
Date:November 7th, 2004 02:17 pm (UTC)
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The non-pizza based Pizza Express food is far more expensive than their pizzas, and not very exciting. Their aubergine thing is lovely, but costs almost half again as much as their pizzas, and would only feed a very small unhungry person. Their salads are all tomato obessed (I don't like tomato, or indeed, cold food) and their pasta dishes I could cook for myself for far less money.

I do tend to default to their ham and eggs, as it's cheep and not a pizza, but it's hard to get excited about ham and eggs every monday.
From:ex_robhu
Date:November 7th, 2004 02:19 pm (UTC)
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Is it impossible to persuade your friends to expand their choice of monday food?
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From:aldabra
Date:November 7th, 2004 02:28 pm (UTC)
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Pizza Express: because of the garlic oil. Their Veneziana, which doubtless I can't spell, is significantly interesting for a pizza. ISTR their tiramisu being pleasant too 8-)

If you put the garlic oil *under* the pizza it makes it wonderfully moist and gooey and unhealthy. IRMFI.
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From:emperor
Date:November 7th, 2004 02:55 pm (UTC)
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For reference, I lodged your objection to Pizza Express, so next time we may well go somewhere else...

I second jda's comments about emailing pizza@chiark to suggest a new venue.
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From:feanelwa
Date:November 8th, 2004 04:48 am (UTC)
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They will leave the cheese off if you ask them nicely.
From:mtbc100
Date:November 8th, 2004 07:20 pm (UTC)
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Mmmm. I went to Pizza a few times at various places. Maybe it's changed much since, but I think it would have been quite enough pizza for me. Dawn likes pizza a little more frequently than I do, too. I do like it, but once a month is enough for me, and now we have very interesting local pizzas available with pesto and whatnot. Italian food (psuedo and authentic) I generally find to be overrated by its consumers.
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